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(Top New Franchises) AMWAY or SCAMWAY?
With a brutally tough economy, record high foreclosures and widespread personal financial woes, many are looking for additional ways to earn some cash or start a new business. That means it’s boom time for those who are hawking business opportunities and multilevel marketing schemes. But what is MLM fact and what is MLM fiction?
AMWAY is arguably the most successful (or at least best known) “direct sales” organization in history. Yet there is so much negativity around the AMWAY name that much of the AMWAY website is dedicated to dispelling “What you may have heard” from AMWAY detractors.
WHAT DO YOU THINK? IS AMWAY A LEGITIMATE DIRECT SALES ORGANIZATION HELPING INDIVIDUALS REACH THEIR POTENTIAL – OR A BIG SCAM? HAVE YOU EVER SOLD AMWAY? WHAT WAS YOUR EXPERIENCE?
COMMENTS – PRO & CON – INVITED BELOW.
I think it’s strange when I read blogs about people hating amway. Maybe they used a different organization then I do but my experience is much different then what I read. I am a 22 year old university hockey player with a full course load so I am very busy. My fitness trainer told me that him and his wife were doing this business and I turned him down saying I had no time. A year later I was chatting with him and asked how he was doing with his business. He told me his wife was retired already in a mere 11 months. I was immediately intrigued and have now been in business for 5 months and already am making a couple thousand a month. Because of this business I will be able to have no loans for university. I know there are people that become “AMBOTS” and they wreck amway’s reputation for those of us who are level headed and approach it as a business and a way to make extra money.
I have been in Amway three or four different times (I’ve lost count). I never made much money at it, but did have success as a sponsor. Most people want to get in and reinvent the wheel and do their own thing, then blame their failure on Amway. Everyone who fails blames it on Amway. (Go figure) But the plan works if you work the plan. There are people from EVERY walk of life who have found great success at it, so don’t think you have to be perfect to make it in Amway, because you don’t. If you dedicate yourself to succeeding at anything, nothing can stop you. Losers will fail at whatever they try because of their poor attitude and negative thinking. Amway is the FINEST business opportunity I have ever come across (and I’ve tried a lot of things) and I’m not even IN Amway. You will not find a more excellent training system, finer folks, or a better opportunity anywhere. My time in the Amway business was the best years of my life because of all the training I received (which has helped in every other area of my life), all the friends I’ve made (who are still my friends even though I’m not in anymore), and the experiences I’ve had going to meetings, seminars, rallies, major events, etc. It was the most fun I’ve ever had and I miss it very much. If you’re thinking about joining Amway, don’t hesitate. Get in and DON”T EVER QUIT!!! The training alone is worth the cost a hundred times over.
Amway itself is direct sales. Im not a salesman. Id rather just build my team and let the products flow. The ones who are succeeding great. Ur dreams will come true soon. For those who have failed. Maybe try re reading Kyosakis books again. Its what you feed your mind is what depends on your results. You listen to to much negative bullshit and you will fail. I have met some of the most successful people in the business and I tell you they are helping me get to my goals and dreams… Stay focused on your dreams and goals.
To me Amway does create wealth . All I can say is check it out for yourself, & just do it.
Fair Enough. This is what Amway SHOULD be about. Good Luck.
Of these “sources” you speak of: what the hell are you talking about? What do you think is more credible? A pissed of Diamond who got kicked out for breaking the rules, or the Federal Trade Commission, Robert Kiyosaki, Donald Trump, Bill Gates, and the over 1100 small business and Fortune 500 companies that we have partnered with? You have know credibility. Your argument holds no juice. Stop while your ahead. Your losing at every turn, lmao.
Can you do that Steve? Doing what you’re doing now?
Lol, way to put it, but they are highly respectable people. Do your research. Amway Global has over 1100 business partnerships with countless Fortune 500 companies, many of which you probably shop at. Also, AG distributes, sells, or leads consumers to well over 3 million products. Some partners are:
Best Buy
Bass Pro Shop
Disney Store
Nascar Store
Cabella’s
Dell
AT&T
Dick’s Sporting Goods
Barnes & Noble
Office Depot
Avis
Pacson
Ace
Kodak
Petco
Franklin Covey
and many more…
Why would these companies affiliate themselves with a scam? Why did Microsoft put about $40 million of seed money into AG to help it grow even better? If it’s a scam, why risk it?
Robert Kiyosaki endorsed Amway Global and even wrote a book that makes a point along the same lines of what AG stands for. I mean, even the Social Security administration has admitted that following the traditional method of making money is a BS plan that was designed to fail. The Federal Trade Commission is currently backing Amway Global 100%. It even stated, in open court, that AG is 100% legitimate. It’s on the FTC ’s website if you want to take a look. So is the court ruling.
If you were truly Christian, you would support her and help her make something of this unique opportunity, instead of tearing her down. What the heck kind of brother are you? If my family was like yours, I wouldn’t have time for you either. I remember when I joined the Marines, my family was tearing me down and being negative. They said that I would lose everything like many young Marines did. So, I separated myself from them and started to ignore them. Then, they realized that what they were doing was wrong and apologized to me. It took me a while, but I found the compassion to forgive them. You don’t know how much it hurts to know that what you are doing is for the best, but not to have your family support you. I guarantee that she prays to God every night hoping that you will see the truth. I know I do. I know that my business team encourages me to pray to God and bear faith in myself and what I believe.
Do your research. Amway Global has over 1100 business partnerships with countless Fortune 500 companies, many of which you probably shop at. Also, AG distributes, sells, or leads consumers to well over 3 million products. Some partners are:
Best Buy
Bass Pro Shop
Disney Store
Nascar Store
Cabella’s
Dell
AT&T
Dick’s Sporting Goods
Barnes & Noble
Office Depot
Avis
Pacson
Ace
Kodak
Petco
Franklin Covey
and many more…
Why would these companies affiliate themselves with a scam? Why did Microsoft put about $40 million of seed money into AG to help it grow even better? If it’s a scam, why risk it?
Robert Kiyosaki endorsed Amway Global and even wrote a book that makes a point along the same lines of what AG stands for. I mean, even the Social Security administration has admitted that following the traditional method of making money is a BS plan that was designed to fail. The Federal Trade Commission is currently backing Amway Global 100%. It even stated, in open court, that AG is 100% legitimate. It’s on the FTC ’s website if you want to take a look. So is the court ruling.
It does help, but he’s just being sour. It really depends on the person/people working on building the business.
Actually, do your research. Amway Global has over 1100 business partnerships with countless Fortune 500 companies, many of which you probably shop at. Also, AG distributes, sells, or leads consumers to well over 3 million products. Some partners are:
Best Buy
Bass Pro Shop
Disney Store
Nascar Store
Cabella’s
Dell
AT&T
Dick’s Sporting Goods
Barnes & Noble
Office Depot
Avis
Pacson
Ace
Kodak
Petco
Franklin Covey
and many more…
Why would these companies affiliate themselves with a scam? Why did Microsoft put about $40 million of seed money into AG to help it grow even better? If it’s a scam, why risk it?
Robert Kiyosaki endorsed Amway Global and even wrote a book that makes a point along the same lines of what AG stands for. I mean, even the Social Security administration has admitted that following the traditional method of making money is a BS plan that was designed to fail. The Federal Trade Commission is currently backing Amway Global 100%. It even stated, in open court, that AG is 100% legitimate. It’s on the FTC ’s website if you want to take a look. So is the court ruling.
If You actually take a look at Amway you would see how great an opportunity it actually is. Negative people are always quiters or uneducated. If you think Amay is a scam you are on of those people who will never succeed in life because your too comfortable living a broke lifestyle.
I always hear about how Amway fols are retired. They aren’t. They just work the night shift. These higher up Amway diamonds or whatever are still busy running around trying to rebuild their business because the retention rate in Amway is miserable. Also, has anyone actually seen the financials of these diamonds? Amway reports that an average diamond earns less than $150K per year, before taxes and business expenses. At that rate, they are middle class at best.
How do you define “turnover”? Who gets into Assholeway to SELL? Quite simply, you are seduced into thinking that self consumption and evangelical sponsoring will make you rich. It won’t. It does move A LOT of “system” tools however. Go figure, (if you have any capacity for objective thought left)
QUESTION: What is more likely? That you are victims of an elaborate scam that is more concerned with “plugging people into the system” at MASSIVE profit to a handful of kingpin IBO’s, OR advocating mere self-consumption rather than actual selling in order to rope as many GULLIBLE system consumers in as possible?
Google “Occams Razor” for further edification….
Clearly, you are unable to read, conduct quality research into your (badly) chosen business involvement, or to exercise sound judgement. Welcome to Amway friend! Go Diamond! (NOT)
Phil, I can only empathise with your remarks in the broader sense. In specific terms, Amway has been exposed as a fraudulent scam. The earnings at the high pin levels are a fraction of what is the common received wisdom. It has been established that a handful of kingpin IBO’s have been making gazillions off the peripheral “tools” business for decades. Not least the lunatic racketeer Dexter Yager and his Madwoman missus Birdie. Brig Hart had a $50,000,000 lawsuit connected with this non-disclosed activity.
Quite simply, Amway is a sophisticated bait and switch cult with a methodolgy honed across decades. On an even simpler level, it is pure Evil incarnate. I cannot imagine the pain and disillusionment this company is responsible for. Applying general business principles to this cult-based scam is disingenuous at best.
Just to highlight another humanistic angle on this debate, I think its fair to say that nobody would disagree that the vast majority of Amway distributors comprehensively fail.(0.2% only apparantly “go direct”..and even then the income v expenditure is highly questionable)I think we can also safely ignore the views of the Amway apologists on this site who are still “dreaming”. I would love to hear from someone who is honest enough to state that they are (currently…not next year/next 5 years/next life!)being financially well rewarded by their Amway involvement…not “in waiting” or those “still chasing the dream” By implication, your views are those of a mass-mindset instilled by a decades-old proven system of insidious control which promotes cognitive dissonance and impaired judgement)
Either way; any Business that implies failure on the scale of Amway, and has led to billions of wasted man-hours over decades with attendant pain,loss and dismay for the massive majority cannot be regarded as a sound proposition. Also, what type of person wants to achieve “success” that is predicated on the misery and total disillusionment of so many others. The National Lottery is cheaper and less harmful, with a comparable chance of success!
Just a thought.
Is there a disproportionate percentage of newbie know-nothing Amway Distributors posting on this site or is it just me???
So Steve, are you successful? The reason I “check upline” is because they are retired. I personally have been using amway as a distrubtor for 6 months now and I earn a steady flow of about 800 bucks a month. I have checked the per use price and find it to be competitive.
And for the “tools” do you think the cost of a plumbers tools aren’t worth it either? that he shouldn’t spend money on the tools?
Lets take any small business start-up. Cost is on the low side 150k. So tell you what, when I “lose” 150k, I’ll think about stopping. But if you honestly think that 140 bucks sign up and 50 bucks a year is expensive for quality products that cost the same as the store, then i question your own thinking.
Actually, here is what i find funny. Whenever anyone has no leg to stand on, their last ditch effort is to question the motives. To try to discredit the people. And that is all you are doing, saying they are deceiving us and pulling one over us to make money off their tools. Would you mind actually backing that up with facts? Why not figure out the cost of the average startup business and the hours that goes into it and the profit of a business, and then compare it to amway. Then post that on these boards.
But really, all you are trying to do is tell people not to trust them, but you do not back it up with anything.
Here, I’ll serve as an example. I heard that Steve Howarth runs a competition program that tries to compete with amway for distribution, so all he is doing is trying to ruin the competition.
There, now you are discredited with no evidence backing you up. So what does it really matter. We all know / think that you must have a competition business that is trying to compete with amway.
I’ll simply put it this way, show me facts, statistics, and comparison to what else is out there. But this has potential to earn as much money as you like, while my software engineering degree will cap out at 200k, at the VERY top and twenty years of experience along with continual education during that entire time. So if I read as often as WWDB suggests, and listen to CDs as often, but instead of listening to building this business I read about software development, I might earn 100th of the earnings of doing the same with amway. That or I could setting for lower class status with a 60k a year earning.
I DON’T UNDERSTAND THOSE PEOPLE WHO ARE TRYING TO SAY THAT AMWAY IS A “SCAM”. PEOPLE HAVE NEVER ACHIEVED ANYTHING IN THEIR LIVES AND OBVIOUSLY DIDN’T DO ANYTHING WITH THIS BUSINESS, THINKING THAT BY SIGNING, MONEY WILL START POURING INTO THEIR ACCOUNT. YOU FAILURES ARE FINDING AN EXCUSE AND YOU KNOW IT!!! I DON’T CARE IF IT TAKES ME 10 YEARS TO HAVE TREMENDOUS INCOME. BUT I WILL NOT GO TO WORK AS YOU ARE, SO CALLED SLAVES!!! YOU GOTTA THINK OUTSIDE OF YOUR BOX AND YOUR STUPID FRIENDS WHO ARE PULLING YOU DOWN TO THEIR CRAP NEST.
YOU KNOW THAT BY GOING TO WORK, YOU ARE FULFILLING SOMEBODY ELSES DREAM AND GOALS??? OH YOU HAVE ONE TOO? REALLY? –YOU PROBABLY FOUND ONE THAT WOULD ACCOMMODATE WITH THE INCOME YOU ARE GETTING. YOUR DREAMS MUST BE SO BIG THAT FACTS WILL NOT COUNT…