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Hot off the presses and all behind the cut. Plenty spoilery! The new season approaches.
Supernatural Season Premiere Photos:
“Lazarus Rising” – (clockwise) Jensen Ackles as Dean, Traci Dinwiddie as Pamela Barnes, Jim Beaver as Bobby, Jared Padalecki as Sam in SUPERNATURAL on the CW. Photo credit: Sergei Bachlakov ©2008 THE CW NETWORK, LLC. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED.
Sam looks so. . . mature (?) in this next pic.
“Lazarus Rising” – Jensen Ackles as Dean, Jared Padalecki as Sam, Traci Dinwiddie as Pamela Barnes in SUPERNATURAL on the CW. Photo credit: Sergei Bachlakov ©2008 THE CW NETWORK, LLC. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED.
The boys, together again. . . why so sad, fellas?
Supernatural Season Four begins on September 18
All photos: Sergei Bachlakov ©2008 THE CW NETWORK, LLC. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED.
ETA: Okay, you asked, I provide: Kristy
Genevieve Cortese as Kristy in SUPERNATURAL on The CW. Photo: Sergei Bachlakov/The CW©2008 The CW Network, LLC. All Rights Reserved.
Elise (and reset) the great tragedy of you claiming that you will not be watching the show if it isn’t about Sam is that you still won’t stop bitching about it on every discussion forum and ruining the excitement for the rest of us.
I guess that’s the point, but do yourselves and the rest of us a favor and get a frickin’ life. Honestly if your life sucks so much that this is how you need to make fun for yourself, it’s probably time to step away from the computer and try having a real conversation with a live person again.
Now before anyone jumps on me for only blaming sam fans, I’ll point out that I’m talking to two (but most probably one) specific person(s) and not Sam fans as a group. This person(s) is deliberately baiting people by making idiotic and unsubstantiated claims over and over again about Dean, Jensen and the show.
And with that I am done feeding the troll(s).
I agree with Sonja and marysuehater First of all supernatural is about both of the boys not just about sam and not just about Dean, if u really supported the show and sam u wouldn’t be attacking anybody. I just can’t beleve how great Jared and Jensen get along while the fans can’t. I think its stupid both of the boys love the show and u know what so do hell of a lot of other people, we watch the show because of the brothers and its not the same without one of them gone, if that happens this show is gonna end so fast. This show is about family, and the two brothers underline two brothers not one. so finally Dean gets to be a part of the show just as much as Sam. And Honestly I love both boys and they do an amazing job as well. PLUS the ratings you showed us I want to know if its only for the US cuz I’m in Canada and I don’t think that its only that many people who watch the show I don’t know if they inclu. the other chanels where this show airs. I don’t wacth it on CW and I know a lot of people who live in many different countries who watch this show. ANYWAYS, WE NEED TO STOP THIS MADNESS AND CARE ABOUT SUPERNATURAL, CUZ ITS ABOUT BOTH OF THEM AND NOT JUST ONE OF THEM (I FEEL LIKE I’VE BEEN SAYING THIS HELL OF A LOT LATELY, AND I JUST DON’T UNDERSTAND WHY THE FANS CAN’T GET A LONG AS WELL AS THE BOYS, FINAALY YOU GET A SHOW WHERE THE ACTORS GET ALONG SO WELL, YET SOME OF THE FANS ARE ATTACKING THE MAIN TWO CHARACTER PEOPLE NEED TO GROW UP).
As for the pictures they seem awesome, I can’t wait for season 4 to begin. This season is gonna be awesome. Can’t wait two see the boys back on screen again.
Alright, may I request that if you wish to make comments about “which brother is getting the shaft on the show” that you take your comments to either a fan forum or a personal blog, because I really don’t feel that this is the place for it. I’m not trying to censor people, I just feel that it’s places like these (sites that cater to a variety of shows and not just SN) that helps create more buzz for the show, and IMO, all this bickering is just going to turn people away. And that’s one thing (well, at least I hope) that NONE of us want.
I think the season will make it to season 5 just fine. It’s the CW you have to worry about Katie.
Wow. Crazy much?
I’m thinking between the sucky writing, the sucky ratings, the sucky fandom, and the sucky CW, this show ain’t gonna make it to season 5.
Oh, c’mon, the show is about BOTH boys. It was only the mytharc storyline that didn’t involve both boys equally, and now it finally will. Sam’s storyline is *ongoing* because his destiny storyline is the heart of the mytharc and that has to be told over the course of many seasons.
I thought season 2 was fairly Dean-centric, but I thought season 3 was pretty Sam-centric. Ruby was about Sam. Lilith was about Sam. Mary’s secret was about Sam, as Ruby stated. And most of the anvils in the standalone eps were about Sam losing Dean. Dean was just basically hanging around waiting to go to hell. Sam was the one who got to be active in Dean’s deal plot because Dean couldn’t even be an active participant until the last few episodes.
For me, season 3 suffered because the writers didn’t have a clue of what to do with Dean’s character in the first half of the season, because he couldn’t be active in his own storyline, and because he didn’t really have any place in the show other than worrying about Sam and Sam’s destiny. To me, it was kind of The Sam Show, guest starring “sidekick” Dean and THAT was the problem. I think by giving Dean an *equal* place in the mytharc in S4, this will give the show a better balance: both boys can have both mytharc storylines and emotional arc storylines. Yay.
Elise, you must not understand how the ratings work. Season 1 was on the WB, a different network, and it was in a different time slot. You cannot compare the ratings in S1 with S2 or S3. Plus, this past season ratings were down on every network and for every show due to a number of factors: increase in the use of DVR’s, watching shows on the web, and the writer’s strike, and we had even tougher competition in our time slot in S3 than we had in S2.
Oh, and a Sam fan (i.e. “reset”) started this entire Sam vs. Dean discussion, Elise, and then you continued it with “why is there all this Sam fan bashing?!?” I think people are honestly trying to express their excitement for the show and then the same few Sam fans take over these comments with their whining before the season has even started, based on nothing but spoilers. *sigh*
Yay, pics!!! Can i request Travis? and Castiel? oh Castiel? ;D
Elise, how can Kripke miss you if you won’t leave?
That aside, ratings were higher on the old WB because… it was the WB. :P It aired in more cities, it had an already-established fanbase, and the original night was good for everyone concerned.
Season two, enter the CW. Young, unproven network, airs in less cities, Supernatural is in the so-called Time Slot of Death.
If you took your Samgirl blinders off and looked at all the factors, you’d realize what everyone else already knows. But then you’d have to let the facts get in the way of your desire for the All Sam Winchester All the Time Hour, and I know you’ll never do that.
Oh, and let’s not forget the big move to the CW, and the lack of promotion. Yet, we still survived and are the second top rated scripted show on the CW. Boy, really. You need to get over it.
Kripke finally made the show equally balanced and the Sam fans are going nuts because it is now balanced and not only about Sam.
Just to put everything in perspective. After the strike ALL THE SHOWS WENT DOWN! Not just SN. Stop blaming Dean for everything. If it wasn’t for Dean, this show wouldn’t have seen second season, let alone 4 of them
Wow Elise, you must be going senile.
Let’s see. Season 1 started on Tuesday Nights, following Gilmore Girls. It was switched to Thursday Nights on the death night, death hour and guess what? It’s still alive. Yeah Elise, even after facing AI on Tuesday nights and surving, and facing CSI and Gray’s Anatomy on 9PM for Two Years and surviving, then having to face all the other shows they kept tacking on at 9PM Thursday Nights, the most popular night of the week and surviving, you are still going to blame it all on Dean??
How pathetic is that? Can you really be so self-centered and narrowminded that you would think that if Kripke made the show all about Sam it would do better?
Well, wake up! Kripke tried doing that at the beginning of seaon 3 and failed.
But, you won’t see that. All you’ll see is that unless Kripke makes it all about SAM, it’s not good.
It sure as hell didn’t go down on the second half like you claimed either.
And if you forgot, Jus in Bello also followed a SN repeat, Nightshifter. Huh!
Well, making it about both Dean and Sam is good enough for me and 99% of the fans watching. Get over it.
Okay, I hate to add gas to this ongoing fire….
But if it were not for us bickering Sam and Dean girls, this show would be getting much higher ratings, and people would not have to leave the show, and not have to stop watching it!
I am 25 years old, and I think that this elementary school bantering is childish, (this is going to get me flamed) and better left for the playgrounds.
Can’t we act like SPN girls, instead of Sam and Dean girls? That is what the shows is truly about right? The whole basis of the show, not just the men acting in it, or maybe I missed that memo.
You all fight amongst yourselves, and sadly, the show will fall asunder when we all leave for such pitiful reasons as ‘Sam’s mytharch is just not working for me.’
Oh well, I will get off my soap box and scurry off into a hole somewhere.
The bitter truth about the rating of the Deanshow:
Season One
Episode 01 (09/13/05) – Viewers: 5.69 million
Episode 02 (09/20/05) – Viewers: 5.01 million
Episode 03 (09/27/05) – Viewers: 5.01 million
Episode 04 (10/04/05) – Viewers: 5.40 million
Episode 05 (10/11/05) – Viewers: 5.50 million
Episode 06 (10/18/05) – Viewers: 5.00 million
Episode 07 (10/25/05) – Viewers: 5.08 million
Episode 08 (11/08/05) – Viewers: 4.47 million
Episode 09 (11/15/05) – Viewers: 4.21 million
Episode 10 (11/22/05) – Viewers: 5.38 million
Episode 11 (01/10/06) – Viewers: 4.23 million
Episode 12 (01/17/06) – Viewers: 3.86 million
Episode 13 (01/31/06) – Viewers: 5.82 million
Episode 14 (02/07/06) – Viewers: 4.27 million
Episode 15 (02/14/06) – Viewers: 3.96 million
Episode 16 (02/28/06) – Viewers: 4.22 million
Episode 17 (03/30/06) – Viewers: 3.76 million
Episode 18 (04/06/06) – Viewers: 3.67 million
Episode 19 (04/13/06) – Viewers: 3.62 million
Episode 20 (04/20/06) – Viewers: 3.99 million
Episode 21 (04/27/06) – Viewers: 3.26 million
Episode 22 (05/04/06) – Viewers: 3.99 million
Average: 4.52 million viewers
Season Two
Episode 01 (09/28/06) – Viewers: 3.93 million
Episode 02 (10/05/06) – Viewers: 3.34 million
Episode 03 (10/12/06) – Viewers: 3.78 million
Episode 04 (10/19/06) – Viewers: 3.29 million
Episode 05 (10/26/06) – Viewers: 3.65 million
Episode 06 (11/02/06) – Viewers: 3.38 million
Episode 07 (11/09/06) – Viewers: 3.19 million
Episode 08 (11/16/06) – Viewers: 3.16 million
Episode 09 (12/07/06) – Viewers: 3.12 million
Episode 10 (01/11/07) – Viewers: 3.24 million
Episode 11 (01/18/07) – Viewers: 3.44 million
Episode 12 (01/25/07) – Viewers: 3.42 million
Episode 13 (02/01/07) – Viewers: 3.37 million
Episode 14 (02/08/07) – Viewers: 2.84 million
Episode 15 (02/15/07) – Viewers: 3.03 million
Episode 16 (03/15/07) – Viewers: 3.52 million
Episode 17 (03/22/07) – Viewers: 3.38 million
Episode 18 (04/19/07) – Viewers: 3.25 million
Episode 19 (04/26/07) – Viewers: 3.33 million
Episode 20 (05/03/07) – Viewers: 3.12 million
Episode 21 (05/10/07) – Viewers: 2.90 million
Episode 22 (05/17/07) – Viewers: 2.72 million
Average: 3.29 million viewers
Season Three
Episode 01 (10/04/07) – Viewers: 2.97 million
Episode 02 (10/11/07) – Viewers: 3.16 million
Episode 03 (10/18/07) – Viewers: 3.03 million
Episode 04 (10/25/07) – Viewers: 3.18 million
Episode 05 (11/01/07) – Viewers: 3.24 million
Episode 06 (11/08/07) – Viewers: 3.01 million
Episode 07 (11/15/07) – Viewers: 2.88 million
Episode 08 (12/13/07) – Viewers: 3.02 million
Episode 09 (01/31/08) – Viewers: 2.95 million
Episode 10 (02/07/08) – Viewers: 2.68 million
Episode 11 (02/14/08) – Viewers: 2.97 million
Episode 12 (02/21/08) – Viewers: 3.23 million
Episode 13 (04/26/08) – Viewers: 2.22 million
Episode 14 (05/01/08) – Viewers: 2.63 million
Episode 15 (05/08/08) – Viewers: 2.55 million
Episode 16 (05/15/08) – Viewers: 3.00 million
Average: 2.92 million viewers
It won’t survive into S5 with these numbers. And no it didn’t go up during the last part as you claim. only the finale got higher ratings, but not the highest of the season. Jus in Bello was promoted like a mytharc episode – and it took some viewers back but then it dropped back again.
Kripke has all the evidence he needs in those numbers, he just chooses to ignore the facts.
How deep of a denial can you live in Elise?
Since you and your followers seem to think that season 3 sucked because of Dean, yet the ratings went back up during the second half and were second highest during Jus in Bello. Huh. Will wonders never cease?
And the end of S3 was so full of plot holes that it made me cringe.
There was maybe two mentions of Sam’s sl during the entire season and it’s Sam fault the season sucked. How deep in denial can you live?
The season was all about Dean (and his hang
around Bela), except a few eps where Sam was allowed to play a significant part. Even Kripke has admitted that Sam’s storyline was pushed back in favor of Dean’s deal.
But it’s Sam’s fault that the season sucked? LOL!
season 3 wasn’t Dean centric. It was all about Sam and his destiny. Sam and Ruby his personal guradian angel. Sam, the man, killing the CRD, Sam the Anti-Christ, the BoyKing, the DemonKing in the making. Oh please. I watched the show. It sucked because they tried making Dean superficial and Sam the heroic one. Then they had Bela, who made both Dean and Sam dumb as dumb can be, and Katie who couldn’t act..
Get over it Tina, it’s not all about Sam anymore.
Season3 the first half was Dean centric so that argument is rubbish so nice try for that one or Kids alright a Sam episode? but the writers strike
didnt help season 3
I think it is fair to say that there is complaining by both sides. There has been a hilarious discussion ongoing for THREE days on TWOP with people upset that Sam is described as being a “mathlete” in highschool in an upcoming episode. They think once again Sam is being labeled smart and Dean dumb.
I am just looking forward to the season actually starting. At least then, complaints will be based in actual fact rather than spoilers, pictures, and sides taken out of context.
It seems there will always be fans, myself included, debating and defending the merits of each character and actor, which is odd considering how there seems to be little if any competitiveness between Jensen and Jared!
Elise, season 3 sucked because they tried to make it the Sam/Ruby/Bela show and Dean was relegated to secondary character. So, no, season 3 didn’t suck because of Dean, but because of Dean not being there.
If you noticed, season 3 the second part was great because guess what? They stopped treating Dean like he didn’t exist and made him part of the show again.
Nice try, but if you have to blame season 3 on anybody, blame it where it is, on the crappy writing and the crappy characters.
P.S. Reset?
You sound like the same Sam fan that is on all the boards whining about how Dean is taking over and poor Sam isn’t the star of the show anymore because of Dean. Waaaahhn!
I can only shake my head and wonder what made you think this was the Sam Winchester Hour in the first place. Oh, wait, cause you’re a Sam Fan who has the right to complain until you get what you want, the totally Sam Show, including the cape. After all, I’m sure Sam will be able to fly soon, or at least you hope so.